JP Aggregate Sub List 07/13/18

Hello everyone. Going to be yet again a quick post from me this week, as the sub list haven’t presented many changes yet again. Instead, however, I’d like to quickly recap on the Persona Collab, mainly its REM, in which NA will finally be getting starting next week (yay!)

In my opinion, the main card you should be looking out for is Ren Amamiya, the protagonist of Persona 5. I have done a write-up on him in my Sub Tier List post in May, which you can check out here. But in short, he provides FUA and 2 7c awakenings, is balanced typing (able to take any latent killers), and has a stellar active skill rivalling that of Odin Dragon’s famous awoken bind recovery.

Other than Ren, the other 6* of the REM has some leading potential, namely Yuki Makoto. Again, I have done a write-up on him in May’s Leader Aggregate List, which you can see here. Though, in summary, he’s similar to that of Rikuu, playing rainbow and Skill Charges but without a type restriction. Has since been washed out of the Aggregate Leader List, but in my opinion still a decent card.

The other 6*, Yu Narukami and Elizabeth, has seen some use, but aren’t a must have. Can fill niche roles or lead for fun, but don’t expect them to tackle Alt Arena well (compared to other leads/subs, of course).

Finally, the 5*; they all fill niche roles, at best. There maybe some use for Yosuke’s active skill as an inherit and Kirijo’s two devil killers, but there are other cards out there that do their jobs but better.

In conclusion, rolling is again should be dependant on your box. Though in my opinion, just like Magic the Gathering collab, the REM can be worth a few rolls to grab a copy of the “more useful” 5*, in hopes of lucking out on a 6*. Otherwise, the 10% diamond rate is going to be just as soul crushing as MtG.

Ren Amamiya CAN be worth trading for at the Trading Post, but again it’s going to be different for everyone. I know some of you out there have already traded way your GFE for Jhoira, in which case it may be wise to pass on Ren. I don’t think the other 6* are worth considering trading for. They’re good don’t get me wrong, but with the power creep nowadays they just get shadowed all too quickly.

I hope that helps in the Persona Collab to come. As always, thanks for reading!

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DISCLAIMER: (quoted from SetsuPAD)
“Do NOT take these ratings as facts; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which subs are actually the best for your specific situation.”

Cards you own that are not on these Tier Lists are not automatically nonviable, and cards you own that are on these Tier Lists are not automatically viable. 

The Subs below mostly accompany top combo/colour leads, such as the leaders from my “JP Aggregate Leader List” posts. They boast tremendous firepower through their multiple 7c awakenings and/or have valuable killer awakenings (such as God, dragon, devil killers). HOWEVER, they are not universal; all subs should be built around your leader, and more importantly the DUNGEON you are tackling. Which goes back to my main point: “Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which subs are actually the best for your specific situation.”

JP Aggregate Sub List


Changes from last time: Fire Ilmina moves up from #4 to #3, Odin Dragon moves down from #4 to #3
Top 1-5
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
3657 - Amatsu
3274 - Phantom Demon of the Grimoire, Ilmina
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
4379 - Ren Amamiya & Arsene

Game8


Changes from last time: Ilmina up from #5 to #2, Reeche added to #3, Amatsu down from #3 to #4, Amamiya Ren down from #2 to #5, Odin Dragon kicked. Natsu added to “Fire Top 3”, Fire Ney kicked as a result; Reeche added to “Water Top 3”, Water Ney kicked as a result; Zela abd Tardis added to “Wood Top 3”, Ragnarok Dragon and Wood Ney kicked as a result;
Original source
Overall 1-5
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
3274 - Phantom Demon of the Grimoire, Ilmina
4413 - æ°·è¯ã®å¤§é­”女・Riche
3657 - Amatsu
4379 - Ren Amamiya & Arsene
Fire Top 3
3274 - Phantom Demon of the Grimoire, Ilmina
3606 - Fire Dragon, Natsu
3933 - 秘匿ã®æ¼‚é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»ã‚¨ãƒ³ãƒ©
Water Top 3
4413 - æ°·è¯ã®å¤§é­”女・Riche
3657 - Amatsu
3846 - Paradise's Demon Princess, Fujin
Wood Top 3
4415 - 岩拳ã®å¤§é­”女・Zera
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
3947 - Savage Claws Dragonbound, Tardis
Light Top 3
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
4020 - 鋼ã®éŒ¬é‡‘術師・Edward Elric
4302 - 霊界探åµãƒ»æµ¦é£¯å¹½åŠ©
Dark Top 3
4379 - Ren Amamiya & Arsene
4204 - 甘美ã®é›¶é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ney
3994 - Norn of Excursions, Verdandi

Altema


Changes from last time: None
Original source
Overall 1-5
3657 - Amatsu
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
3788 - Destructive Machine God, Ragnarok Dragon
4302 - 霊界探åµãƒ»æµ¦é£¯å¹½åŠ©
Fire Top 5
3274 - Phantom Demon of the Grimoire, Ilmina
3933 - 秘匿ã®æ¼‚é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»ã‚¨ãƒ³ãƒ©
3943 - æ»…è…•ã®è’é¾å¥‘士・6å·
3897 - Scorched Claw Toy Dragon Caller, Cotton
3260 - Yamato Flame Dragon Caller, Tsubaki
Water Top 5
3657 - Amatsu
3524 - Aqualily Goddess of Bliss, Uruka
3846 - Paradise's Demon Princess, Fujin
3945 - 冷牙ã®è™šé¾å¥‘士・Kiri
3758 - Coiled Cipher Dragon Caller, Ney
Wood Top 5
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
3788 - Destructive Machine God, Ragnarok Dragon
3899 - Horned Fort Toy Dragon Caller, Cotton
4415 - 岩拳ã®å¤§é­”女・Zera
3967 - 唱導ã®ç¥ž, Rushana
Light Top 5
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
4302 - 霊界探åµãƒ»æµ¦é£¯å¹½åŠ©
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
4135 - Thunderlord Zinogre
4022 - 鎧ã®å¼Ÿãƒ»Alphonse Elric
Dark Top 5
4379 - Ren Amamiya & Arsene
4204 - 甘美ã®é›¶é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ney
3699 - Awoken Nohime
4056 - é»’æ»…ã®å¨å¥³ç¥žãƒ»Kali
3941 - Investigation Pursuing Dragon Caller, Nees

GameWith


Changes from last time: Vraska added to “Wood Top 5” as #4, Cronus kicked as a result
Original source
Overall 1-5
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
3657 - Amatsu
4135 - Thunderlord Zinogre
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
Fire Top 5
3274 - Phantom Demon of the Grimoire, Ilmina
3897 - Scorched Claw Toy Dragon Caller, Cotton
3933 - 秘匿ã®æ¼‚é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»ã‚¨ãƒ³ãƒ©
4433 - 接近戦ã®ã‚¹ãƒšã‚·ãƒ£ãƒªã‚¹ãƒˆãƒ»Makunouichi Ippo
3606 - Fire Dragon, Natsu
Water Top 5
3657 - Amatsu
4413 - æ°·è¯ã®å¤§é­”女・Riche
3764 - Norn of Etched Water, Skuld
4375 - Makoto Yuki & Orpheus
3524 - Aqualily Goddess of Bliss, Uruka
Wood Top 5
3264 - Original God Odin Dragon, Light Lance Form
4415 - 岩拳ã®å¤§é­”女・Zera
4284 - 極醒ã®ç·‘é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Sonia=Fio
4605 - Vraska the Unseen
3788 - Destructive Machine God, Ragnarok Dragon
Light Top 5
3930 - åšæ„›ã®å½©é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ideal
4135 - Thunderlord Zinogre
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
4302 - 霊界探åµãƒ»æµ¦é£¯å¹½åŠ©
4022 - 鎧ã®å¼Ÿãƒ»Alphonse Elric
Dark Top 5
4379 - Ren Amamiya & Arsene
4204 - 甘美ã®é›¶é¾å–šå£«ãƒ»Ney
3901 - Jester Toy Dragon Caller, Cotton
3525 - Darkstar Goddess of Bliss, Uruka
3609 - Sin of Wrath, Meliodas

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